BC1-1908 Homework, Thibault Caradec

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Ok, let's go then. While watching Kent's livestream, I decided to start already my blocking. 

I'll give some background for reference :


My profile :

Hobbyist. I tried to use Blender a few times over the last years but never got into it, only completing very random youtube tutorial, not learning anything really. I decided on an Andrew Price's advice in one of his video to subscribe to CGCookie, and I'm halfway through in the Modelling Bootcamp. I also participated in the vehicle contest after the Hard Surface Modelling part 1 tutorial. 


My project :

According to Kent's guidelines, I decided to choose the sword as a goal, but for some variation, I chose a japanese katana. The main reason is that, in my dreams of "what could I do with Blender?", representation of japanese samurais is one of the main things.


My working planning

Each day, I take the train for 1 hour and a half to come back from work. I plan to use that time to progress in my homework. I'll be updating  this thread with my progress, problems and questions each day. 


Reference images :


Scale reference


Parts


Handle

 

Guard


Blade


Let's see how good (or bad I can make it)



  • Thibault Caradec(otowa) replied

    Day 0 :

    As it's already late here in France, I just used the time during the live stream to perform the simple blocking of the katana. 



  • Kent Trammell replied

    THIS is how to start a homework thread! I thoroughly enjoy the background info, your goals, and why you chose the katana. The reference images are perfect and the model is well on its way too. Nice job otowa 👊

  • Thibault Caradec(otowa) replied

    Day 1 : Tsuka ito


    As soon as I decided to go for a katana, I knew that the tsuka ito was going to be one of the hardest part to do. 

    The tsuka ito is the piece of fabric (silk, or leather for example) that wraps around the handle (the tsuka). 

    The difficulties I foresaw  and the adopted solutions were : 


    -Complexity of the wrapping pattern

    If you look carefully, the material is wrapped around itself in a very specific pattern. 



    As Kent suggested to keep things pretty simple (well that's what I understood at least), I cheated by reducing the level of complexity by modeling just two rings of material reducing in width where they cross each other, one going behind the other. 


    -Shape of the handle

    The whole katana is bend, which can become complicated for this kind of things. 

    I decided to replicate my starting double-ring with an array modifier, and, then curve the pattern with a Beziers, and I think it turns out acceptable. 



    That's it for this day 1. It went much better than I anticipated. As for the "inside" of the handles (behind the tsuka ito, and is called the "same"), I think I will use texturing in week 2 to give some detail, unless someone here can suggest an easy way to replicate this kind of "texture"


  • Thibault Caradec(otowa) replied

    @theluthier Thank you! Keeping a nice thread pushes me to do things in a proper and constistent way. 

  • silentheart00 replied

    otowa Nice work so far!  You're really going for it!  As for the sharkskin texture under the wrapping, I'd probably leave it for the texturing phase.  It'd be easier, anyway, and since the majority will be under a wrapping, less important than the big features.  I would use a voronoi texture and follow a similar process for Kent's water shader, but instead of pushing the "bump" inwards, push it outwards. Hopefully that makes sense. Let me know if it doesn't and I'll do my best to simplify.

  • spikeyxxx replied

    otowa May I suggest something?

    For the shape of the handle, in stead of using a curve, model it straight and then use a Lattice Modifier to get the curvature.

    I'm not sure if that is better, but it does have some advantages.

  • Thibault Caradec(otowa) replied

    spikeyxxx Could you tell me what benefits I would get? I remembered the curve technique from an old youtube tutorial, but I noticed theyr use lattice in the jellyfish tutorial I started recently. But I'm not sure to know why one would be best than the other. 

  • spikeyxxx replied

    otowa It would bend the whole handle consistently. You could use the Lattice for the wraps and for the underlying structure.

    Look at my barrel, for instance, I modelled everything straight and then added a Lattice. This way the rings and the planks get bend the same way.

    I'm not sure if this makes sense to you, but if not, don't be afraid to ask.

  • Thibault Caradec(otowa) replied

    spikeyxxx Yes it does, I'll give it a try, thanks!

  • Kent Trammell replied

    Now I know the proper name of the katana grip pattern. It inspired me to do some youtubing. Learning new things everyday!

    The only advice I have regarding the wrap pattern is that the criss-cross feels a bit too flat in your model. Like it's losing volume, especially when seeing the handle as a whole. I think there's room to make the criss-cross protrude out a bit more. This photo for example:

    As for bending the arrayed pattern, a lattice is a great choice. Also a Simple Deform modifier set to "bend" would do the trick too.

    And I 100% agree with silentheart00 that a voronoi procedural texture would be great for the underlying handle.

    It's so cool to see your process for creating the shape. This thread can now serve as a worklog for others to learn from. Way to go, Thibault.

     

  • Thibault Caradec(otowa) replied

    @theluthier Thanks, I'll see about that tomorrow!

  • Thibault Caradec(otowa) replied

    silentheart00 I tried the voronoi and it's going somewhere, but first I'd like to have them all forming nice circles, and second I'm not even sure this is the way I should go. (I used shader node on the displacement channel).


  • Aaron Rudderham(thecabbagedetective) replied

    otowa Maybe add a Colour Ramp to the Voronoi? The circles will be flat (usually) if that's what you're looking for as a base, and then you can tweak it some more. Might take a bit to get all the circle separated but it can be done.



  • Philipp Bauer(cruento) replied

    Wow nice! I really like that you show us detailed work in progress!

  • spikeyxxx replied

    otowa In stead of that Multiply node, you should use Vector > Displacement node!

  • spikeyxxx replied
  • Mona Loren(monaloren) replied

    I like katanas and this reference looks fantastic. This thread is like an tutorial and very interesting and helpful.

    Thank you for effort

  • Thibault Caradec(otowa) replied

    Day 2 : Handle various parts


    This day has been dedicated to blocking out and starting to details some parts of the handle of the katana. Namely, the Kashira ("butt cap"), the Fuchi (Metal parts near the guard), and the Habaki (simple metallic part at the base of the blade).


    Nothing was very fancy about the blocking out. No special difficulties, or trouble to either obtain the desired shapes or the hole of the Kashira.

    Kashira


    Fuchi


    Habaki



    Detailing is an other journey. I decided to start with the Kamon (Family Crest) on the Kashira. Kashira can have very complex sculpt on them, but a Kamon is simpler and a good training for me.  14-D-8 had my choice.



    I decided to go for vertex modeling, and use of an array modifier to replicate the petals. After a few issues, and despite a very bad vertex repartition I obtained what I wanted. 



    Second difficulty after the modeling is to actually put my relatively flat Kamon on the bend Kashira, wich I achieved using a shrinkwrap modifier.


    New problem : It's now completely flat on the Kashira. I'm not sure about which way to go. I thought that maybe I should only... Hmmm. I'm writing this while working on it and I found a solution...


    What I did : I flattened my Kamon completely, and added a Solidify modifier after the shrinkwrap. I had to make it flat, otherwise the "thickness" faces I has on my original model would go crazy with the solidify modifier. 


    Damn that was tricky! I'll have to tweak the solidify mod for the final thickness but that may wait a little. My main problem now is that the edges are super sharp on the petals with the solidify... Hmm...


    Raah, the train's almost at home. I have to stop for now, maybe I'll get back to it at home... So much to do before submission...

  • amyeha replied

    This is looking fantastic so far! 

  • Jack (jack07) replied

    otowa I'm really enjoying looking through your workflow, very interesting and organized!