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killzone

Stuck with shading issues on curved surface

Hello everyone.

I have a problem with a model I am working on. Please see the pictures.

I have tried to fix the shading with Yet Another Vertex Normal Editor (Y.A.V.N.E.) and "Shrink Wrapping" it onto a cylinder with 32 sides and SubD on it... all the same. It did not change...

I am using the golden shinny MatCap from the "N" panel.

Thanks for the help.

Cheers.

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    Jonathan Lampel

    Hey Large killzone , are you referring to where the highlights get narrower around the holes? That's happening because there are two edges very close together in that area, and edges that are very far apart in between where it gets wider. 

    Try continuing your edge loops all the way along the gun instead, like so:

    It's less ideal since it adds more geometry, but it should fix the shading. 

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    killzone

    Hello Jonathan,

    Thanks for the reply. 

    I will take your suggestion and try it... do you think I should have "booled" it?

    Do you think it will make a difference when baking normal maps? It is barely noticeable in other MatCaps... but if I look at other models like the car from "Complete Vehicle for Production" from CG Masters... it is flawless.

    I would like to use my model as a FPS in-game model style animation.

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    killzone

    Hello Jonathan,

    Ok so I took your advice and ended up with this.

    I basically upped the resolution on the mesh, created a vertex group and made a cylinder the wrap onto... it is much better but it is still visible...

    Is there anything else I can do? I guess only up the resolution on the mesh even more, right?

    Please have a look:

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    Kaj Suominen

    with sub-d you sometimes need to look the end result and not the wireframe. what you can try is to move the vertices that are between the holes upper. its all about the averaging sub-d, and between the holes the division is greater. or you could try adding loopcuts between the holes to even out the topology.. 


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    Dolores 74

    The cylinder, used for the shrinkwrap, I gave it a subdivision level of 5, but 3 will do. (Layer 2)

    Also, the shrinkwrap has to come after the subdivision.

    To apply the shrinkwrap you will have to apply the subdivision first.

    Here's the file.

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    Jonathan Lampel

    It does look better!

    I would like to use my model as a FPS in-game model style animation.

    Is this the high poly version or the low poly? If it's the high poly, feel free to add as much geometry as you need, since the normals will be baked anyway. The low poly will match the shading of the high poly, even if the geometry is slightly off. 

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    killzone

    OK!

    Here we go... I did all you said and I didn't understand why it would still be "UNCLEAN"!!!!!11111

    Now I tried a lot... and here is the SUSPECT! (And it was in front of me the WHOLE TIME!)

    GOOD progress! :D

    Yes Jonathan... it is supposed to be the high-poly version! :'(

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    Kaj Suominen

    :) glad you found it. those 5 sided ngons are worst to spot atleast for me. 

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    Jonathan Lampel

    Excellent, that's looking much better! I totally missed that too when looking at the mesh earlier. Keep up the good work 👏

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    killzone

    Cheers... Yeah this is how we learn... "Next time you'll better be lookin' out for them damn n-gons, boy!"

    :D :D :D

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    Ben Reynolds

    Anyone know if MeshLint is still supported? It was an addon that scanned your mesh and highlighted tris, ngons etc. Haven't tried it with 2.7x though.

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      Kaj Suominen Large

      its still suppported. sometimes has few issues with multiple objects selected. but 99% times works like a charm.

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    killzone

    Hi Ben,

    Interesting... I will check that later! ;)

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    Kaj Suominen Large

    its still suppported. sometimes has few issues with multiple objects selected. but 99% times works like a charm.

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